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    PostSubject: Keeping it Together - Discussion! [Expect spoilers]   Tue 16 Jun 2015, 22:10

    I know this thread is early, but I'm just so excited that Ruby and Sapphire are gonna be in this. I love them so much already <3 but I wonder why they're gonna be in it? o.o

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    PostSubject: Re: Keeping it Together - Discussion! [Expect spoilers]   Wed 17 Jun 2015, 09:07

    Well, according to the episode description, "a dark secret is found in the Kindergarten". Maybe more gem destabilizing antics? Maybe Ruby and Sapphire aren't able to fuse for some reason, and have to figure out a way to become Garnet again?

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    PostSubject: Re: Keeping it Together - Discussion! [Expect spoilers]   Wed 17 Jun 2015, 13:15

    I am a bit worried about Garnet, Ruby, and Sapphire...

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    PostSubject: Re: Keeping it Together - Discussion! [Expect spoilers]   Wed 17 Jun 2015, 13:24

    I am prepared in case this episode kills me.

    That's a distinct possibility. The title implies that there is something to do with Ruby and Sapphire is in this episode.

    And then a dark secret about the Kindergarten. Kindergarten can't possibly be good to begin with. Dark secrets about it makes it far worse.

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    PostSubject: Re: Keeping it Together - Discussion! [Expect spoilers]   Wed 17 Jun 2015, 13:27

    Hopefully it won't be THAT bad but...well...thinking back on Sworn to the Sword...

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    PostSubject: Re: Keeping it Together - Discussion! [Expect spoilers]   Wed 17 Jun 2015, 14:45

    15 minutes until the east coast airs. I'm gonna stream it! I'm ready!

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    PostSubject: Re: Keeping it Together - Discussion! [Expect spoilers]   Wed 17 Jun 2015, 15:14

    GUYS THIS WAS SO SAD AND MY HEART HURTS
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    PostSubject: Re: Keeping it Together - Discussion! [Expect spoilers]   Wed 17 Jun 2015, 15:16

    I really liked Steven not fighting Peridot. But Garnet's expresion when they discover the thing was heartbreaking
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    PostSubject: Re: Keeping it Together - Discussion! [Expect spoilers]   Wed 17 Jun 2015, 15:19

    Holy shit. That was intense. So intense. So sad. Wow. Wow.

    Are we sure this is a kids show?!

    I think this is more or less confirming that the corrupted gems are the crystal gems, from Rose's army, fused without a choice. The Crystal Gems just didn't know the extent of what was going on with the corrupted gems. Now Garnet knows. And Rose might have been taking care of the corrupted gems. Or was going to. I don't know. But I'm sad! This was so intense!

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    PostSubject: Re: Keeping it Together - Discussion! [Expect spoilers]   Wed 17 Jun 2015, 15:24

    THIS EPISODE WAS NOT OKAY

    Garnet almost unfusing was heartbreaking.

    Garnet talking to herself was even more heartbreaking.

    This is my favourite episode of the show thus far!
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    PostSubject: Re: Keeping it Together - Discussion! [Expect spoilers]   Wed 17 Jun 2015, 15:32

    This episode was AWFUL. Heartbreaking. I feel shaken inside. Garnet Sad the other Crystal Gems. Wow.

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    PostSubject: Re: Keeping it Together - Discussion! [Expect spoilers]   Wed 17 Jun 2015, 16:13

    I feel bad because I wanted to see Ruby and Sapphire (and I actually hoped Garnet would de-fuse) but there was something important: both were talking because they were almost separeted, or in other words, their fusion was not balanced (?). I mean, Connie and Steven also did that kind of talking to themselves when they were Stevonnie, and Lapiz and Jasper did that too.
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    PostSubject: Re: Keeping it Together - Discussion! [Expect spoilers]   Wed 17 Jun 2015, 16:27

    I'm so sad and upset and mad. I was hoping Garnet would unfuse too. x.x;; I liked seeing them talk like that, though. I think you might be onto something by saying their fusion was unbalanced - probably. They were almost completely split. Luckily their love and will strengthened them and helped keep them together.

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    PostSubject: Re: Keeping it Together - Discussion! [Expect spoilers]   Wed 17 Jun 2015, 16:28

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    Holy shit. That was intense. So intense. So sad. Wow. Wow.

    Are we sure this is a kids show?!

    I think this is more or less confirming that the corrupted gems are the crystal gems, from Rose's army, fused without a choice. The Crystal Gems just didn't know the extent of what was going on with the corrupted gems. Now Garnet knows. And Rose might have been taking care of the corrupted gems. Or was going to. I don't know. But I'm sad! This was so intense!

    It wasn't just that they were fused without consent, but that they were also DEAD. Garnet said that those were the Gems that had died in battle and were buried together. Not only did they violate them by forced corrupt fusion, but they also brought them back to life, in the worst way possible. Like when you could hear all of the fused Gems screaming for a second. They were in pain, both physically and emotionally. It's sickening.

    Suddenly Peridot just got a lot more menacing than what we originally thought.

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    PostSubject: Re: Keeping it Together - Discussion! [Expect spoilers]   Wed 17 Jun 2015, 16:34

    Yeah... I'm sad for the Crystal Gems Sad

    And then you have Jasper's whole comment of fusion just being a "cheap trick". Really says what Homeworld thinks of fusion with this episode and that line.

    Peridot is becoming an intense villain. It makes me wonder how bad like Yellow Diamond will be.

    Also Ruby was the one crying, my emotional baby. She's next to Pearl in my favourites.

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    PostSubject: Re: Keeping it Together - Discussion! [Expect spoilers]   Wed 17 Jun 2015, 16:51

    Also take a look at this:

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    Think the transformation of the gem shards into a gem thing that looks like a Centipeetle means anything?

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    PostSubject: Re: Keeping it Together - Discussion! [Expect spoilers]   Wed 17 Jun 2015, 17:46

    wasn't the centipeetle a corrupted gem or something like that?
    and also, I just remembered the other shards in Rose bubble in Secret Team. So these were parts of gems, that probably also died in the war but not forced together, just kept together.
    And remember the healing power? And the comment about Rose taking care of the shards?! (oh my feels)
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    PostSubject: Re: Keeping it Together - Discussion! [Expect spoilers]   Wed 17 Jun 2015, 17:51

    Yes, the centipeetle was a corrupted gem. I wonder if it was perhaps a forced fusion and the Crystal Gems didn't know. And yes, in Secret Team, those were gem shards most likely of their fallen friends.

    Steven may play a key in healing these gems as he is half human and may be able to do more than what Rose could because of this fact. Maybe Rose knew this. Maybe this is part of why Steven is here.

    Though...I have to say...what if Rose knew that Homeworld was doing forced fusions? Actually, what if EVERYONE knew but Garnet? Because in Secret Team, they were pretty frantic about finding the shards and not having Garnet find out about them/the bubble popped... Maybe they didn't want her to know because it would hurt her so much... Hmmm....

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    PostSubject: Re: Keeping it Together - Discussion! [Expect spoilers]   Wed 17 Jun 2015, 18:37

    This episode...AHHHHHHH

    Peridot's back! Haha, I love the interaction between her and Steven (and that crazy laugh as she flies away.) So now we know that Peridot is not only master of the worm on space hands, but also a mad scientist. Hm. Honestly, I think she's an over-analytic that cannot (at this point in the plot) understand the concept of love...something that might possibly change in a redemption arc?

    I really felt for Garnet here. That Ruby/Sapphire dynamic! And I liked how it was something of an evolution and reversal of Steven's experience with future vision. Garnet was in his scared, unprepared position this time. Everything worked out decently in the end though, so that's a plus.
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    PostSubject: Re: Keeping it Together - Discussion! [Expect spoilers]   Wed 17 Jun 2015, 19:05

    For some time now i've had the theory that, given that the original warpads were broken or useless, those Gems Steven and the others were fighting had to actually be a part of Rose's army. Greg did say that she could only save "a handful" or her friends, but he didn't specify how many and it didn't look like he was refering only to the 3 crystal gems, so, i think the corrupted gems they're fighting are actually that handful that Rose saved.
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    PostSubject: Re: Keeping it Together - Discussion! [Expect spoilers]   Wed 17 Jun 2015, 20:54

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    PostSubject: Re: Keeping it Together - Discussion! [Expect spoilers]   Wed 17 Jun 2015, 21:25

    This episode's second half left me speechless personally.
    I mean this is one of the few (I think first) time/s we've seen garnet like this. Before the episode i was just wanting to see Ruby and Sapphire again, i kept mentioning it to my friends. Then when she almost split i yelled 'NOT LIKE THIS'. I'll be horrified if every time we ended up seeing Ruby and Sapphire they were forced to separate. pale
    Also the music they chose for the episode did wonders for it!
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    PostSubject: Re: Keeping it Together - Discussion! [Expect spoilers]   Wed 17 Jun 2015, 21:31

    Oh yeah I know what you mean. I was wanting to see Ruby and Sapphire too but this episode was NOT what I had in mind for that. I don't think anyone was prepared for this if I'm honest. And we definitely haven't seen Garnet loose her cool and fall apart - the fusion thing was SUCH a huge deal to her. I can definitely understand 1000% what she was/is feeling.

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    PostSubject: Re: Keeping it Together - Discussion! [Expect spoilers]   Wed 17 Jun 2015, 21:32

    Garnet: I am not unfusing for laundry.

    Everyone Me: NO I WANNA SEE RUBY AND SAPPHIRE

    Garnet: *almost unfuses because of a body horror monster*

    Everyone Me: IM SORRY I DIDN'T MEAN IT LIKE THAT

    This is the episode in a nutshell.
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    PostSubject: Re: Keeping it Together - Discussion! [Expect spoilers]   Wed 17 Jun 2015, 21:56

    moral of the episode: we want Garnet to unfuse but NOT LIKE THAT
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